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AS9100 - 8.5.1 production and service provision

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AS9100 - 8.5.1 production and service provision

We do some drawing updations and Engineering change management activities and we support our parent plant with respect to the above.

Our certification scope is Design and Manufacturing of XYZ parts ...

a) My clarification is whether the external auditor shall audit 8.5.1 clause requirements considering our Engineering activities comes under service provision.

b) or suppose if the scope is Engineering support services and Manufacturing of XYZ parts. Then in this case only, the external auditor shall do an audit as per 8.5.1clause requirements for Engineering support activities.

Requesting your support to clarify.

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Mark Hammar Jun 11, 2021

In AS9100, throughout the standard, all requirements are applied to the products AND services of the company. So, throughout the operations requirements in clause 8 the intent is that these will apply to both products and services of the company. As you have indicated, you do not exclude design and development as you take part in it, and apart from some minor differences in meaning as to this being a service or not it is actually a bit irrelevant. If you have identified the requirements for this activity, including those needed to meet the needs of your customers, and these are part of your process then if you have a scope of “design and manufacturing” or “design services and manufacturing” the end outcome is really irrelevant.

Even if this activity is considered a service, I am sure that you have all the applicable “controlled conditions” of your service provision included to meet your needs, remembering that the clause 8.5.1 requirements are deemed “as applicable” to whichever product or service they are applied.  In the end you have a process that meets the needs of you and your customer.

 

This change for products and services, along with the ability to exclude design and development from the QMS, is explained a bit more in this article: Can companies still exclude design and development from their AS9100 Rev D QMS?, https://advisera.com/9100academy/blog/2017/10/09/can-companies-still-exclude-design-and-development-from-their-as9100-rev-d-qms/

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