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Chance to avoid the de-certification process

My plant has an open but 100% resolved NC due to poor performance with GM. They are scheduled to have the special audit in September to close the NC but meanwhile, the performance with the customer has been degraded instead of improving. Due to the increased number of complaints, they will still stay Red with GM until at least January 2021.
The question is:
1. What is the chance to avoid the de-certification process? 

2. Can we present a newer plan approved by GM and the NC be carried over and be reviewed during a future special audit?
Thank you very much.

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Fırat İnceli Aug 05, 2020

"My plant has an open but 100% resolved NC due to poor performance with GM. They are scheduled to have the special audit in September to close the NC but meanwhile, the performance with the customer has been degraded instead of improving. Due to the increased number of complaints, they will still stay Red with GM until at least January 2021.The question is:1. What is the chance to avoid the de-certification process?

I recommend you to be in close contact with your certification company as this issue is very critical. You should improve your GM performance results without wasting time. I would like to give you some information about this topic about IATF rules.

IATF revision 5 rules are written for decertification in item 8.1 "a"

The start date of the decertification process shall be the date of any of the following:

    1. The certification body receives a performance complaint against the client from an IATF OEM member, its relevant IATF Oversight office, or any automotive customer of the client.

    2. The client advises the certification body of a special status condition from an IATF OEM. Notification from the client to the certification body shall occur within ten (10) calendar days from receipt of the special status condition or otherwise specified by the customer

The IATF revision 5 rules are set out in article 8.2 as follows:

8.2 Analysis of the situation

The certification body shall undertake immediate analysis of the situation to determine the severity of the situation and risk to the customers of the certified client, taking into account, where applicable, IATF OEM customer-specific requirements. This analysis shall be completed within a maximum of twenty (20) calendar days from the start date of the decertification process. Where major nonconformities are raised, the analysis shall include a review of the client submitted root cause including the method used; analysis, results, and implemented correction (see section 8.1 a) and 8.1 c). When the affected site is part of a corporate audit scheme, the analysis shall include a review of the concern and its impact across all sites.

According to the rules, since there is a problem with a performance from GM, the de-certification process has to be started. So because you received bad performance notification, the de-certification process has to be started.

IATF Rules stated in revision 5, item 8.4 as follows:

8.4 Verification

The certification body shall verify the effective implementation of the identified corrective actions from the certified client within a maximum of ninety (90) calendar days from the start of the decertification process. The decision to conduct onsite verification shall be at the discretion of the certification body. The certification body shall maintain records of the justification of the decision.In situations where the decertification process has been initiated due to major nonconformities (see section 8.1 c), the certification body shall conduct onsite verification ( see section 5.11.4) and the onsite audit shall be considered a special audit (see section 7.2) and be entered in the IATF database.In situations where the decertification process has been initiated due to a special status condition from an IATF OEM (see section 8.1 band section 1 0.0), the certification body shall conduct onsite verification and the onsite audit shall be considered a special audit (see section 7.2) and be entered in the IATF database. In situations where the decertification process has been initiated due to a surveillance audit not conducted on time (see 8.1 e), the onsite audit shall be the rescheduled surveillance audit and be entered in the IATF database.In situations where the corrective actions are not effectively implemented, the audit team shall recommend the withdrawal of the certificate.

Can we present a newer plan approved by GM and the NC be carried over and be reviewed during a future special audit? Thank you very much.

In the special audit that will take place in September, you should present your detailed root cause analysis and corrective action plan. Even in this audit, the recovery trend, which is the result of your actions, should be seen on the GM portal. If there is no improvement trend, the additional time may be taken by the decision of GM and Certification company.

As stated in IATF Rules revision 5, item 8.5: The certification body shall make a decision to reinstate or withdraw the certificate, which shall include a certification decision (see section 5.12) within a maximum of 110 calendar days from the start of the decertification process. In other words, within 110 calendar days, the certification company has to decide on the subject.

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