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How do I gain 4 days of AS 9100 2nd party audits experience to be certified by Probitas for AEA?

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Olga Created:   May 23, 2023 Last commented:   May 25, 2023

How do I gain 4 days of AS 9100 2nd party audits experience to be certified by Probitas for AEA?

Hi,
I am in the process of getting my AEA certification with Probitas toe become AS 9100 Lead Auditor.
I have completed all necessary trainings and have a work experience they require.
The only one thing I am missing is 20 days (4 full audits ) of audits with Lead Auditor who is AS9100certified.
Only 2nd or 3rd party QMS or AQMS audits will be considered. 

How do I gain those 2nd party Supplier audit dates ?

who do I contact?

thank you!

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Mark Hammar May 25, 2023

This is a difficult question because I do not know where you are located or the companies near you, but it is not likely that you will find a certification body that will allow you to take part in a certification audit (3rd party audit) as they have requirements on who can do this.

I can only suggest you approach some AS9100 certified companies that are likely to have suppliers that are certified AS9100 and see if they are looking for a consultant to audit their suppliers (2nd party audits). This is the only way you are likely to get those audit days unless you are in a position in your current employer where you audit suppliers.

You can read a b it more on 2nd and 3rd party audits in these related articles from the 9001Academy: First-, Second- & Third-Party Audits, what are the differences?, http://advisera.com/9001academy/blog/2015/02/24/first-second-third-party-audits-differences/ and Why should companies perform a second-party audit of their supplier’s QMS?, https://advisera.com/9001academy/blog/2017/09/12/why-should-companies-perform-a-second-party-audit-of-their-suppliers-qms/

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Mark Hammar May 25, 2023

This is a difficult question because I do not know where you are located or the companies near you, but it is not likely that you will find a certification body that will allow you to take part in a certification audit (3rd party audit) as they have requirements on who can do this.

I can only suggest you approach some AS9100 certified companies that are likely to have suppliers that are certified AS9100 and see if they are looking for a consultant to audit their suppliers (2nd party audits). This is the only way you are likely to get those audit days unless you are in a position in your current employer where you audit suppliers.

You can read a b it more on 2nd and 3rd party audits in these related articles from the 9001Academy: First-, Second- & Third-Party Audits, what are the differences?, http://advisera.com/9001academy/blog/2015/02/24/first-second-third-party-audits-differences/ and Why should companies perform a second-party audit of their supplier’s QMS?, https://advisera.com/9001academy/blog/2017/09/12/why-should-companies-perform-a-second-party-audit-of-their-suppliers-qms/

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Olga May 25, 2023

Mark, thank you, that was helpful! I am located in CA

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