Answer:
Downtime consists of two types of costs:
1. Direct, like:
- Lost profit
- cost generated by resolving the issues which caused downtime (hours of your employees)
- SLA penalties (or even lost SLA)
- cost of en-user (un)productivity
. costs towards third parties
- etc.
2. Indirect, like:
- reputation damage
- cost of lost opportunity
- regulatory/compliance breach costs
- etc.
So, as you can see, while calculation costs of downtime some costs are easily identifiable, and some are just good estimation. Financial people or business will be of great help, so use the chance and include their inputs in calculation.
New 9001 and 13485 standard
Hi Juanito,
ISO 13485:2016 still requires management representative, so in order to be compliant with the standard you need to assign this role to someone in your organization.
Risk register and environmental aspects
1.can we make a single risk register for a company as a whole or should we have to make functional/ departmental wise or the option left to the Organ.?
Answer: The pros and cons interpretation will depend on the context of the audit scenario considered. CISA is more focused on audit of information systems and IT processes, while ISO 27001 Lead Auditor covers information protection regardless where it is found (digital format, paper media, people, etc.).
That said, if an audit focuses on information security management, ISO 27001 LA would provide a better basis for audit. On the other hand, if the audit will cover aspects like IT governance activities and technical process, CISA is more adequate. It also can help you perform audits considering the strategic relationships of the information systems and business objectives.
Answer: You should include the controls in the SoA. Even if they are implemented by your IT service provider, including them in the SoA is a good idea because this way your organization will have a clear overview about who will implement which control, making easier the job to keep track of all controls, who is responsible and what is their status.
The proper way to do that is to state the control as applicable and indicate which third party will implement the control and what will be the legal basis for it (e.g., implemented by third-party according service agreement).
You should also note that by doing this way you have to ensure to state the control A.15.1.2 (Addressing security within supplier agreements) as applicable and retain as evidence the service agreement with the security clauses your provider must comply with. These security clauses basically refer to the controls your organization states as applicable in your SoA and that you want the provider to apply.
Could you please give an advice about how to tackle this problem??
Answer: For such small number of employees, the most efficient way is to include all organization in the scope, because the effort to manage the interfaces and interdependencies with the areas outside the scope will be greater than consider all the areas of the organization. Customers and logistic partners are considered as interested parties that should be considered in the definition of the scope, not included in the scope itself.
The standard does not requires organizations to adopt risk assessment methodology, so there are no requirements on how the organization will define its criteria for probability, consequence or any other element of risk. The organization itself can define the criteria for probability and consequence if it decides to apply them at all since they are not required. All the organization needs to do is to identify risks and opportunities and take actions to address them, how it will be done is not defined by the standard and the organization has full liberty to do it as it finds the most suitable.
As far as the certification auditor is concerned, he or she can only audit the QMS (Quality Management System) against the requirements of the standard and cannot interfere or require c hanges in the methodology that the organization adopted.
En general es un buen material. la expectativa que no se realmente si sea demasado pedir, es tener un caso practico desarrollado, un modelo basado en un estudio o aplicacion real de auditoria.
Soy uno de los profesionales que tengo certificacion en iso27001, y mi dia adia no me ha permitido ejercer una auditoria y me da susto equivocarme, es como tener un taller de ejercicios para llevarlos a la practica.
Aprovecho este oportunidad tambien para comentar la necesidad que tengo de un plan de continuidad del negocio para un servicio de outsourcing en recursos TI. Tema que lo expuesto por sus esquemas de contacto.
(Overall a good material. The expectation that is not really if it is too much to ask, is to have a practical case developed, a model based on a study or real application of audit.
I am one of the professionals that I have certification in iso27001, and my day to day has not allowed me to exercise an audit and I get scared to err, it is like having an exercise workshop to take them to the practice.
I take this opportunity al so to comment on my need for a business continuity plan for an outsourcing service in IT resources. Subject that exposed by their contact schemes)
This template can help you to define precisely how an organization will manage incidents in the case of a disaster or other disruption of business, and how it will recover its critical activities within set deadlines.
Answer: We work with ISO management standards related documents, so unfortunately we do not have a CMMI Toolkit in our products portfolio.
2- Do you have any or recommend any CMMI toolkit providers?
Answer: Unfortunately I do not have much knowledge in this specific market to provide a recommendation, but you can take a look at this link at Carnegie Mellon University (the institutions that developed CMMI): https://seir.sei.cmu.edu/toolkit/PurposesofthisToolkitDocument.html
Why is top management important for QMS
Answer:
The top management involvement in the QMS is essential for effectiveness of the QMS. Provision of resources, defining Quality Policy and objectives, assigning roles and responsibilities are some of the responsibilities of the top management and cannot be done by someone else. Involvement of the top management is necessary for planning, check and act phase of the PDCA cycle and without them, these phases cannot be properly conducted and the QMS will only be formally implemented and fail to provide any benefit to the organization. For more information, see: To what extent should top management be involved in your QMS? https://advisera.com/9001academy/blog/2016/11/22/to-what-extent-should-top-management-be-involved-in-your-qms/
The best way to convince the top management to participate in QMS is to present them with benefits that ISO 9001 b rings to the company and explain them that QMS wont work without their active participation. For more information, see: How to get Management Buy-in for ISO 9001 https://advisera.com/9001academy/blog/2014/09/02/get-management-buy-iso-9001/